tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post8935111814999845467..comments2024-03-28T16:25:38.547+01:00Comments on The Butler Pennsylvania Blog ~: Gone Forever ~ Hot Dog ShopCharleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16789609881681811818noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-66488177560778396042020-10-26T03:37:46.326+01:002020-10-26T03:37:46.326+01:00At one time, Had the recipe for the sauce from the...At one time, Had the recipe for the sauce from the hotdog shop. Can't fine it now. Does anyone have it?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08176375279463692521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-85962450883436750842013-04-05T08:30:32.521+02:002013-04-05T08:30:32.521+02:00I came home from the Jr. High in the early '60...I came home from the Jr. High in the early '60s and told my dad that I had gone to the Hot Dog Shop that day after school and bought two hots for $.35. He said, " that's awful, when I was a kid they were $.05 each". Times change and the Hot Dog Shop are long gone.<br /> Ed Kellerman<br /> Ed Kellermannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-45047147272494946962012-11-24T04:18:38.466+01:002012-11-24T04:18:38.466+01:00Downtown Butler is dead; it will never be resurrec...Downtown Butler is dead; it will never be resurrected. Those of us who are old enough to remember the beautiful downtown of yesteryear will always have those wonderful memories. Downtown Butler now has nothing to offer. When there were good stores to shop in, there were also restaurants. Remember when Eat-n-Park and Pappans were downtown? <br /><br />We agree with the downtown business person about the HUD properties. However, it's not just the people who live in those properties, but it is also the OWNERS of those properties who do not maintain the properties while they are happy to collect the HUD money for renting them out. Where is the City Code Officer? Where is the Downtown Manager? Someone who is paid with local tax dollars should be doing more to fix the downtown's growing problems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-33937911919973197922012-10-31T22:54:17.359+01:002012-10-31T22:54:17.359+01:00I live in Butler, not "old" but where is...I live in Butler, not "old" but where is there to shop. Ok we have Dollar General and Rite Aid. I don't need motorcycles , so I don't shop there. I could use some furniture but where do I get that downtown, I could use new appliances , where do I get that downtown. There are not more dress shops like McCarrens Troutmans,Pennys and many other places. Where should I go. Now when anyone comes up New Castle they are forced to make a right hand turn Why? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-68414122316001141902012-10-30T02:42:37.859+01:002012-10-30T02:42:37.859+01:00Some of these comments are a joke! You know enoug...Some of these comments are a joke! You know enough to say they had two offers to buy the Rieber building, but did those people tell you what they offered?? I talked to one of the guys at a recent brewfest and asked him why they didn't sell it off and the answer is $10k! Over a third of their property for $10k! $10k doesn't even pay their taxes for a year and they wouldn't have saved much on demolition because it's a little difficult to tear a building out from in between two others. I also can tell you that the city forced their hand on demolition. They were hoping to get a better offer on the building, but were slapped with a huge packet of code violations and given 30 days to correct them. They were bogus violations, all left by previous owners, and the only true way to fix them was to tear the buildings down. Blame the city for your loss of the landmarks if you want to point fingers. I give them a ton of credit for doing what they're doing. The hot dog shop was literally falling down and the Rieber building wasn't much better. Restoration would have been hundreds of thousands and I'm guessing nobody here opened their wallets to "save the landmarks". Let's also not take the corn hole court so literally. They want to put a nice beer garden in and offer entertainment like live music, maybe a bocce court, to keep it fun. Craft beer doesn't lead to DUI's, cheap beer does. And where do you want to go shop??? There are stores down there now closing because you don't shop there enough! Old ideas by old people that clearly don't see the need to bring in something new. Count your blessings some young blood wants to revive the city. I know I'll be drinking there frequently just to show them that unlike most of the comments here, we want them here and need them here. Wake up Butler! Drive these guys away and we'll be sorry!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-53956858511265230962012-10-30T02:42:12.203+01:002012-10-30T02:42:12.203+01:00Some of these comments are a joke! You know enoug...Some of these comments are a joke! You know enough to say they had two offers to buy the Rieber building, but did those people tell you what they offered?? I talked to one of the guys at a recent brewfest and asked him why they didn't sell it off and the answer is $10k! Over a third of their property for $10k! $10k doesn't even pay their taxes for a year and they wouldn't have saved much on demolition because it's a little difficult to tear a building out from in between two others. I also can tell you that the city forced their hand on demolition. They were hoping to get a better offer on the building, but were slapped with a huge packet of code violations and given 30 days to correct them. They were bogus violations, all left by previous owners, and the only true way to fix them was to tear the buildings down. Blame the city for your loss of the landmarks if you want to point fingers. I give them a ton of credit for doing what they're doing. The hot dog shop was literally falling down and the Rieber building wasn't much better. Restoration would have been hundreds of thousands and I'm guessing nobody here opened their wallets to "save the landmarks". Let's also not take the corn hole court so literally. They want to put a nice beer garden in and offer entertainment like live music, maybe a bocce court, to keep it fun. Craft beer doesn't lead to DUI's, cheap beer does. And where do you want to go shop??? There are stores down there now closing because you don't shop there enough! Old ideas by old people that clearly don't see the need to bring in something new. Count your blessings some young blood wants to revive the city. I know I'll be drinking there frequently just to show them that unlike most of the comments here, we want them here and need them here. Wake up Butler! Drive these guys away and we'll be sorry!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-38382672413473276222012-10-04T17:15:55.424+02:002012-10-04T17:15:55.424+02:00The building was a dump but the Hot Dog Shop was a...The building was a dump but the Hot Dog Shop was awesome - I went there and got 2 Chili & Cheese Dogs every time I went to Butler. I'll be looking forward to trying out the brewpub.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18282655551967699335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-34724931885093032582012-09-23T20:35:56.131+02:002012-09-23T20:35:56.131+02:00Tear it down...good. Let's get something usefu...Tear it down...good. Let's get something useful in that space. Live in the past, losers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-43270444697561651652012-09-18T16:56:59.453+02:002012-09-18T16:56:59.453+02:00Just what Butler needs... another place to get peo...Just what Butler needs... another place to get people intoxicated then put in jail for public drunkeness..... Back in my days "cornhole" was a "bean bay toss" Why not try and get some place that everyone of all ages can enjoy. We need more places to shop, remember Christmas shopping during a blizzard. What fun those days wereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-21117202934923949402012-09-14T03:25:46.829+02:002012-09-14T03:25:46.829+02:00Gee, wished I had known about the auction of items...Gee, wished I had known about the auction of items from inside the shop. Does anyone have anything they might want to resell? (andy_shaffer@hotmail.com)Andy Shaffernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-38861482229129637982012-09-14T03:08:16.867+02:002012-09-14T03:08:16.867+02:00these buildings are turds that cannot be polished!...these buildings are turds that cannot be polished!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-10357955302243023532012-09-06T13:24:19.059+02:002012-09-06T13:24:19.059+02:00The remodeling done previously, as shownin the pho...The remodeling done previously, as shownin the photo, does nothing to make me miss the place. All the character of the entrance circa 1960 was destroyed. <br /><br />As someone already said, you can't bring back the place as it was in the "good old days." Well, minus the hundreds of pieces of chewing gum stuck under every table!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-45605518766606352452012-09-05T03:52:17.308+02:002012-09-05T03:52:17.308+02:00The game of "cornhole" is known as sewer...The game of "cornhole" is known as sewer hole or washer toss in other parts of the country. Lets hope this venture turns out for the best.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-18881999638533330232012-09-04T21:51:12.474+02:002012-09-04T21:51:12.474+02:00My guess would be that asbestos issues caused the ...My guess would be that asbestos issues caused the need for tearing down the building. Asbestos abatement is extremely costly. Add that in with the cost of remodeling, and you would have way too much money tied up in making this building usable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-80622406964490412012012-09-04T20:49:17.743+02:002012-09-04T20:49:17.743+02:00My regret is that these entrepreneurs weren't ...My regret is that these entrepreneurs weren't able to partner with the city and preserve the existing real estate. I'd love to know if renovation/preservation/remodeling ever factored into the business plan. That would've been a win-win; the architectural history preserved and the free enterprise system and correspondent jobs blossoming. But I doubt that kind of vision was ever explored.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-29050099978619087962012-09-04T15:14:57.577+02:002012-09-04T15:14:57.577+02:00Butler accepting Federal HUD money destroyed any p...Butler accepting Federal HUD money destroyed any positive vision downtown Butler ever had. Typical thought process of today's American Politician.....only looking at the present and never long term. Come to Pittsburgh and view the "Liberal Utopian Society," and see it for the myth that it is. Those who don't work for their possessions will never respect those possessions...let alone respect themselves for that matter. <br /><br />But on another note I applaud these young men for taking a risk and following their dream. I genuinely hope the business becomes as successful as North Country Brewing has become. And look at it this way, this idea will at least provide some new jobs. <br /><br />I will always miss The Hot Dog Shop, but obviously 2004 was the end of an era that shall unfortunately not return. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-83669505954214869442012-09-04T03:53:39.652+02:002012-09-04T03:53:39.652+02:00I would love to see all potential HUD buildings to...I would love to see all potential HUD buildings torn down. I am a downtown business person and I know that HUD and the welfare bums that live in HUD apartments are KILLING our downtown!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-19660652785642039812012-09-03T06:17:04.315+02:002012-09-03T06:17:04.315+02:00Preservation as an urban renewal concept takes pub...Preservation as an urban renewal concept takes public and private leadership and (semi) innovative thinking. It can be done when one or both of those attributes are present; clearly in Butler's case these days, neither are in charge. Demolition is short-sighted and forever; there are options when a community has even a scintilla of desire to preserve it's architectural heritage. But if that's not the case, that's not the case. A pity..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-47290899117405098862012-09-02T14:03:22.012+02:002012-09-02T14:03:22.012+02:00Did you know the owner had two buyers for the Reib...Did you know the owner had two buyers for the Reiber building who wanted to restore it!!! But the "Cornhole" current owners instead tore it down for a parking lot.<br /><br />Get some awareness about successful urban renewal and quite being such a Butler "yinzer" and the attitude "its old, let's tear it down." Successful downtowns restore to revitalize.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-84797730905248333132012-09-02T01:24:56.114+02:002012-09-02T01:24:56.114+02:00"tearing down one of its oldest and potential..."tearing down one of its oldest and potentially beautiful buildings"<br /><br />Are you serious?<br />Those buildings are about to either fall down or burn down.<br />(Woolworth bdg comes to mind)<br /><br />Can anyone under 50 remember any business usage of the upper floors or were they slum apartments?<br /> (I don't know)<br /><br />Face it, either you want to look at boarded up old buildings that are cost prohibitve to upgrade to code.<br />Or you can have someone invest private money downtown (though not my cup of tea)and draw some people and cash there. <br />It may be a slow start to some needed revitalization.<br />I too like the old architecture and hopefully they can save some of the old decorative pieces,but you have to be realistic,there isn't a big line to restore these old buildingsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-83163415025813377822012-09-01T11:01:43.248+02:002012-09-01T11:01:43.248+02:00You could never recreate the Hot Dog as we Old-tim...You could never recreate the Hot Dog as we Old-timers knew it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-6745417851518889792012-08-30T02:21:42.075+02:002012-08-30T02:21:42.075+02:00Ah! You revive a town by tearing down one of its o...Ah! You revive a town by tearing down one of its oldest and potentially beautiful buildings for a corn-hole court. The owner who demolished it will never get my business. May I say that "corn-hole" could not described the owners more perfectly!!<br /><br />Where was our wonderful Mayor Stock? Showing no leadership as usual!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-17887692416897598542012-08-30T01:19:56.487+02:002012-08-30T01:19:56.487+02:00bendover Butlerbendover ButlerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-46287089736621109852012-08-29T14:59:17.356+02:002012-08-29T14:59:17.356+02:00I find the term ''cornhole'' offen...I find the term ''cornhole'' offensive in describing this game, back in my day the word ''cornhole'' had a different meaniing and it isn't pretty Just Sayingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14858576.post-3255099599366439182012-08-29T13:48:22.465+02:002012-08-29T13:48:22.465+02:00Demolition of perfectly usable buildings in the na...Demolition of perfectly usable buildings in the name of 'redevelopement' is a poor way to go about urban renewal. Iconic buildings are just that in a community, part of the culture and history that should not be bulldozed and dumped in some anonymous landfill. Too bad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com